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Does anyone know if diesel fuel from a petrol station can be used in an oil fired central heating system? I know the fuel they use is diesel but didn't know if it was the same. Thank you.


10 Aug 2010, 16:33
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whynot wrote:
Does anyone know if diesel fuel from a petrol station can be used in an oil fired central heating system? I know the fuel they use is diesel but didn't know if it was the same. Thank you.



Hi,
I'm pretty sure it could be --but why would you? It's twice the price.


10 Aug 2010, 17:52
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Could we run our vans on heating fuel then?


10 Aug 2010, 19:05
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BenM, that suggests to me there must be a difference otherwise why couldn't you?

Parsips, I need to order some oil but my timing is terrible, it looks like there has been a very recent rise in price. I thought if I could just put a small amount in to just keep the hot water running, I would prefer to wait a little while before ordering 2000 litres.


10 Aug 2010, 23:15
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yes you can run your van on heating oil if it is an old van but if you get caught you will lose the van and a big lump of money paying your fine :P :P newer vans will not run on red ie any thing with an electronic injection pump ps dont do it it is not clever


11 Aug 2010, 05:24
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Why won't newer models run on red? I run my ducato on biodiesel which is oild chip shop oil (faint smell of chips makes me feel hungry though) :D


11 Aug 2010, 07:15
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whynot wrote:

Parsips, I need to order some oil but my timing is terrible, it looks like there has been a very recent rise in price. I thought if I could just put a small amount in to just keep the hot water running, I would prefer to wait a little while before ordering 2000 litres.


I think you may well find that the price continues to rise as start to run into the pre-winter rush to refill the tank and demand increases.

Of course if you believe that the Euro will strengthen substantially against the greenback, then my comment above does not apply.

All the above comments about equivalence of diesel and heating oil of course only apply in France. In the UK heating oil is paraffin - lower viscocity and a lighter cut from the refinery.

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BenM wrote:
Could we run our vans on heating fuel then?


Hi!

You could, but risk to get into trouble with the law, because the taxes on each are specific.
Definitely not to be recommended.
The fine is pretty stiif, especially since they add a presumed run km component.

NB. One can detect if you have been using heating fuel for a long time - they have tell-tale colors.

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11 Aug 2010, 07:40
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Heating oil comes in regular and superior, is the superior red diesel as well?

AndyH4, you have a point but it does seem to have gone up a lot very quickly. The lady at the company I order it from said it had been very unstable for the past week. I am sure you are right and I am just kidding myself. :(


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just ordered 1200lts at 66/ltr ordinaire not superior -use in heating system and run tractor


11 Aug 2010, 09:14
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I was quoted 73.7 but that is with tax.


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White diesel is the same as red diesel in the UK, the only difference is the colour and the tax levied. Both have various additives, lubricant, detergent etc.. Red diesel was specifically for off road use i.e. tractors, plant and marine.
Heating oil is refined to a different standard and does not need the lubricants. Found using this in a road vehicle you will encounter a large fine and not some small expense when your injector pump fails (lack of lubricant) :!:
I have used a mix of cooking oil with DERV but this does depend on the injection system used. If you have a common rail system it appears that this is a no no. I understand that you can purchase heating oil in small quantities from most of the larger fuel stations if you are running low. Surely a lot cheaper than diesel for the car.


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stutz wrote:
White diesel is the same as red diesel in the UK, the only difference is the colour and the tax levied. Both have various additives, lubricant, detergent etc.. Red diesel was specifically for off road use i.e. tractors, plant and marine.
Heating oil is refined to a different standard and does not need the lubricants. Found using this in a road vehicle you will encounter a large fine and not some small expense when your injector pump fails (lack of lubricant) :!:
I have used a mix of cooking oil with DERV but this does depend on the injection system used. If you have a common rail system it appears that this is a no no. I understand that you can purchase heating oil in small quantities from most of the larger fuel stations if you are running low. Surely a lot cheaper than diesel for the car.


Meanwhile in France the tanker topping up my heating oil tank also filled up the tank of the Manitou working here, billed separately to the builder. Same fuel from same tanker also used for tractors on the farm. Whether it works in cars don't know, but its clear and not red, (never seen red here although people on Forums say it exists in parts of France, seen blue for boats though), The oil man told me farmers pay the same price as we do for it and claim their fuel rebates back.


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You could well be right, but be aware that for road safety reasons liquid tankers are compartmentalised (even the small ones) and can and do carry different liquids in different tanks.

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Just looked up the cost of a replacement pump for a 1.9 Citreon Xantia......around £1100.00 including surcharge. Add the cost of fitting, is it worth the risk :?:


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