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Just read that you can register the birth of a child at the British Embassy, after reading their site , the only reason to do this is so that the birth is entered into the "General Uk Birth Registery". We dont need to register the birth at the embassy to get a british passport so was wondering why do people do it ? also they charge €130 !

has anyone done this or give me reasons why people would wish to do this
http://ukinfrance.fco.gov.uk/en/help-fo ... gistration


19 Oct 2008, 14:22
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The way I read the linked site, especially this sentence.........

"There is no obligation to register the birth before applying for a passport for your child."

is that in order to obtain a British Passport, you would need to be registered with the British Embassy but you don't need to do this immediately after the birth (just prior / alongside the British Passport application)!

I find the embassy sentence unclear - it may just be me of course!

Charging €130! :shock: I don't remember paying anything at the French Embassy in Edinburgh when we registered our children (as french / british) to get the Livret de Famille. :!:


19 Oct 2008, 14:43
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that sentence to me reads that you dont need to apply for registration at the embassy in order to get a passport ..very unclear as you say


19 Oct 2008, 15:28
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Jez,

I've been sorting the exact same thing today. I had a baby on 8th October so have been doing all my paperwork today for CAF, RSI etc.

I downloaded the forms to register the birth at the embassy, filled them out, then printed off the forms for a passport. It was then that I read the 'charges' page & I cannot believe the cost just to register a birth! I think it's disgraceful, especially when it costs more than a passport!! :shock:

I (stupidly, it would seem) thought that there wouldn't be a charge as it doesn't say so unless you actually go to the charges page.

But just wait until you want to book flights & see all the extra charges for flying with a baby that never used to be there! :evil: :evil: :evil:

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what is the purpose of registering the birth at the embassy though ?


19 Oct 2008, 19:12
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jezrourke wrote:
what is the purpose of registering the birth at the embassy though ?


I have never found one! My child was born in France but has a British passport for the time being, until he is old enough to decide if he opts for French citizenship. Dunno what registering the birth would achieve ... perhaps useful in some sort of emergency situation :?: :?:

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19 Oct 2008, 19:16
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We registered both our children and requested birth certificates on the basis that if our children ever need proof they are British, it is all sorted for them.
I totally agree it is an outrageous cost BUT I would rather give our children the choice to be French or British than impose our choice on them. Bearing in mind the last time I lived in the UK it was in 1989 so am not likely to return there! But, it is their heritage!


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mdr ..you managed to get a passport without registering at the embassy ?


20 Oct 2008, 08:53
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same here. Baby born Nov 07, french birth certificate...didn't register with embassy due to extra cost. Got her British passport back in June this year.


20 Oct 2008, 09:22
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WowGeorge wrote:
I would rather give our children the choice to be French or British than impose our choice on them.


There's some confusion here: a child born of British parents is a British citizen and entitled to a British passport - you just apply at the Embassy in the normal way. Nothing will ever stop him/her being British unless and until he/she decides to relinquish citizenship.

However, a child born in France and who continues to reside in France can opt to take French citizenship once they are old enough (sorry, I haven't time to look this up, but from memory this is aged 13 if they have spent the last 5 consecutive years living in France).

So yes, you can certainly have a British passport without registering the birth in Britain (in fact, this is the only sort of passport they will be allowed at birth) and it is for the child concerned to choose whether to keep this or give it up.

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Just to put the other posting straight NO UK person of UK parentage is Entitled to a UK passport, we who are SUBJECTS of Her Mag may be granted the use of a passport at her pleasure, but it no given right to have a passport


20 Oct 2008, 15:58
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Hi MDR,
I know the kids are British until they are 13 (and I believe it is 5 years continual residence) and can then make a choice but I just felt that in the distant future, if there is ever any doubt over their nationality, they can wave their British birth certificates around.
It also saves the hassle of having to reapply for French birth certificates all the time :D


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Hi WowGeorge

Sorry, I wasn't trying to criticise your choice :oops: . I just wanted to try to clarify that registering the birth is not necessary to get a passport.

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20 Oct 2008, 19:55
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Hi mdr
Don't worry no offense taken - it certainly it not clear from the passport office info that you don't need a British birth certificate.
They probably hope we will all telephone their horribly expensive help line as well as pay for our super expensive passports and birth certificates!
Let's hope the kids do take up french passports - they're free for under 15's :D


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