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Hi, can you put a compression joint on the red and blue plastic 16mm pipe you get from the builders depots, ie a flexi connection with a commpression fitting on one end?

thanks in advance


27 Jan 2009, 17:43
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You are probably talking about PER tube which needs the proper fittings, these should be on sale near the tube.


27 Jan 2009, 20:28
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Murderously hard to get details as the compression fittings for PER are relatively recent. But from what i have read so far is that you need an adapter that fits on to the pipe so that you can screw on the flexible pipe for the tap. But in theory you can connect the PER direct to the tap skipping the flexi-hose. So giving an unbroken run from manifold to tap.

La Plombere 'Gallauziaux' is not much help as it only has one page on PER :(

UK now is pushing :? push on fittings, making it harder to get info on English sites too.

The compression fittings for PER have an insert into the pipe so that the plastic is compressed onto that.


27 Jan 2009, 20:47
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Buy a normal compresion connector and replace the nut and olive with one of these.

http://www.bricodepot.fr/bordeaux/node/710


27 Jan 2009, 22:55
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FranknCarmen wrote:
Murderously hard to get details as the compression fittings for PER are relatively recent. But from what i have read so far is that you need an adapter that fits on to the pipe so that you can screw on the flexible pipe for the tap. But in theory you can connect the PER direct to the tap skipping the flexi-hose. So giving an unbroken run from manifold to tap. *

La Plombere 'Gallauziaux' is not much help as it only has one page on PER :(

UK now is pushing :? push on fittings, making it harder to get info on English sites too.

The compression fittings for PER have an insert into the pipe so that the plastic is compressed onto that.


* What you are suggesting could be a bit difficult, because most 90+% of the MonoBlock single hole basin and sink valves have 1/4" bsp female tapping's in the valve body for flex connectors

How many times do I have to spell it out the UK is not the same as France, you are in France now forget the UK and its fittings

The best fittings to use with P E R tubing are not compression fittings as per copper tube fittings, but where a a brass sleeve is first placed over the tube, and then serrated insert is fitted into the tube, and with a fitting tool the brass sleeve is drawn up over the insert, compressing the plastic between the brass sleve and the serrated insert, the tube and fittings have been around in France for about 20 years, I was useing them in '92 in France


28 Jan 2009, 00:43
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How many times do I have to spell it out the UK is not the same as France, you are in France now forget the UK and its fittings

You can take the Brit out of the UK, but you can't take the UK out of the Brit. :lol:


28 Jan 2009, 01:15
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Gave up on the UK long ago :shock:, first had to get head around German stuff, then Dutch... now rapidly absorbing the French. But I tend to use US/UK sites for technical data on things that I see are available here then look for the local equivalents. ar*e about face perhaps, but it helps me in understanding and to identify the terminology.

Fact remains that is still hard to get the info on PER use here, which I first came across.


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Thanks Peake.
Just as I said but in words that an idiot should understand, you are much more patient than this cussed old codger. totally in agreement its all here, seek and you shall find


28 Jan 2009, 17:45
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teapot wrote:
How many times do I have to spell it out the UK is not the same as France, you are in France now forget the UK and its fittings

You can take the Brit out of the UK, but you can't take the UK out of the Brit. :lol:


If they are too pig thick to learn different methods or demand that the british way is best, the only thing to do is kick their arses back to the uk


28 Jan 2009, 18:11
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peake wrote:
The best fittings to use with P E R tubing are not compression fittings as per copper tube fittings, but where a a brass sleeve is first placed over the tube, and then serrated insert is fitted into the tube, and with a fitting tool the brass sleeve is drawn up over the insert, compressing the plastic between the brass sleve and the serrated insert, the tube and fittings have been around in France for about 20 years, I was useing them in '92 in France


Sounds good, what is the French name for these... or brands please.


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This link should help you, use the left hand side bar for other information

http://www.sndif.fr/epages/197206.sf/fr ... %20glis%22


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