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It is now up and running with a photo gallery of their current animals.

http://site.voila.fr/spa87/index.html


30 Nov 2008, 20:53
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Hmmm I still get the old page


01 Dec 2008, 08:41
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Hi, the new page came up for me, the photo gallery was sadly well stocked. I have never adopted a dog direct from the SPA and must say I didn't realise how expensive it can be to give an unwanted dog a second chance.I know that the fees include the vaccinations etc but in these days of careful budgeting folks will have to be very devoted to the cause of rescue to be able to find that kind of money. How well vetted are these dogs for temperament and suitability for rehoming.?I wonder how many dogs are in there because they have failed the basic tests the first time round?With fees up to 200 euros it seems an expensive way to find out if the dog bites, or attacks poultry for example.Reading the "Gail and Charlie" story made me think that it was down to the hard work and efforts she made that made the rescue possible. There seemed to be very little investigation into any behavioural problems with Charlie made by the SPA. It was up to Gail "to find out" whether Charlie could live with other dogs, if he was house trained, and if he could be adopted by people with poultry.Luckily for Charlie ,Gail did not give up at the first obstacle. regards cbp


01 Dec 2008, 10:16
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It would be a very sad day if everyone felt this way and decided it just wasn't worth the effort to give one of these poor dogs in the SPA a second chance.

Many have had horrible cruel starts and I for one will look forward to the day I can give one a new start with a loving home. Luckily there are kind people that would be willing to put in the care and effort.

In regards to the fees, I think it is a very small price to pay for a new member of the family. For those that don't want a new member of the family and only something not given much thought or that is too much trouble, hopefully the fee would put them off.


01 Dec 2008, 10:31
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Sorry but I have to agree with Kim about the fees. I was looking at cats, the costs for which are 110 euros. With so many unwanted cats around, I think I'd rather take one found wandering or a home requested on somewhere like here; after all, I could feed a car for 6 months on that amount of money. Do we really want a situation where only the wealthy can afford to adopt an animal?


01 Dec 2008, 10:37
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Well, I don't agree at all. The fee to adopt a dog that is vaccinated and tattooed is €100. if someone cannot afford that for a new member of the family, they cannot afford a dog full stop.

Perhaps this would be a good time for this person to think about all of the necessary costs involved with a new dog. Food, everyday! Vet visits, kennels or care when going away on holiday etc etc... :roll:

Weird that anyone should think that they should be able to get a dog for nothing and the rescue centre absorb all of the cost. :roll:


01 Dec 2008, 10:46
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I understand everyones point about cost, but the animals are speyed /castrated and vaccinated. Having recently spayed my female cat I know that the cost of this at my vets was 92 euros, so with vaccinatins on top you may find that the cost stated of 110 euros actually doesn't give them a vast 'profit', and every penny they make goes towards rescuing more animals. I am not sure how much Phoenix charge but I know that they have plenty of cats and kittens if you are still looking! The price of adopting an animal in need is in the value of having rescued it, not the pounds/euros paid for it! Phoenix go to the SPA centers and BUY the animals they feel need rescuing the most, ie those that face immenent death, these animals then go into foster homes where they are assessed in a number of situations, ei with other dogs, cats chickens etc, maybe people who want to adopt an aminal and would like more info before taking it home should consider calling them first.


01 Dec 2008, 10:51
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Sharon, I do understand why you and a few others associated keep mentioning Phoenix. But I think it is wrong if it puts people off going to the SPA or other rescues centres throughout other parts of France.

There are SO many dogs that need good homes throughout France. There are literally thousands of dogs waiting not just a handful in one region. Particularly older dogs that desperately need homes. I just worry that comments like this discourage and does not help.

I think the below at least for me is a very good example to rescue a dog desperately needing a loving home particularly this time of year versus encouraging people to breed more. Fair enough if it were to happen saving a dog from the SPA or another rescue centre. Sorry for using as an example Beamer but chances are this person will carry on for profit. :(

http://www.totalfrance.com/france/forum ... hp?t=54807


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OK, I have to admit that I didn't notice that they were sterilised and tattooed. When we adopted our dog from the Bergerac Spa last year he'd only had his first vaccination and we had to have him "done" and chipped. Taking this into account I can see that it's not as expensive as I'd first thought.


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I do understand that 'whynot', but Phoenix do actually focus on the old and infirm dogs that end up in the SPA, the reason I mention them was because of one of the former comments about the dogs at the SPA not being assessed. Phoenix go into the SPA centers and have to BUY the dpgs that are due to be put to sleep in the next few days, these dogs are very often old or disabled and stand very little hope of finding homes elsewhere. I accept that Phoenix only cover a limited area in France, but it's all I know about because it's where I live. I believe that Poorpaws is another rescue place based in the Northern Charente, I don't care which rescue center/organisation people go to I just want them to go to one of them!!


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Agreed Sharon.


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whynot wrote:
Well, I don't agree at all. The fee to adopt a dog that is vaccinated and tattooed is €100. if someone cannot afford that for a new member of the family, they cannot afford a dog full stop.

Perhaps this would be a good time for this person to think about all of the necessary costs involved with a new dog. Food, everyday! Vet visits, kennels or care when going away on holiday etc etc... :roll:

Weird that anyone should think that they should be able to get a dog for nothing and the rescue centre absorb all of the cost. :roll:


Hello Whynot, "this person" had a very careful look at the SPA site for Limoges and I noted that larger dogs fully equipped with vaccinations etc were indeed 200 euors. That is not expensive compared to individual trips to the ordinary vet for all the chips,vaccs etc.but, it is still a fair chunk of money to stump up to take on an animal of inderminant character, age and emotional history. "This person" is not going to get involved with a rather unpleasant personal argument as it will benefit no one. If "this person" has done one thing for the animals at the Limoges SPA it has been to make more people look at the site to verify the figures involved, and who knows , someone might see the dog of their dreams. I am well aware of vets bills and have never put either of my two dogs in kennels ,I have not had a holiday in more than twenty years, my animals (over two hundred!!) won't let me!! :) kind regards to you, cbp


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Cabinet, I wasn't referring that "this person" was you, I guess I should have said "one". I was referring to anyone that may not be a potentially responsible dog owner.

I too don't want to get into an unpleasant personal argument. This is not the first time that you have made negative comments in regards to the SPA and/or rescuing a dog and it is not the first time I have responded to your comments.

Nothing personal for me, I have absolutely no hidden agenda, I just feel upset by them and feel the need to respond, that's all. I hope you can understand that. My instincts and thoughts are with the poor dogs that desperately need homes first.


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The problem is that the larger rescue with few staff, some volunteers and not much funding don't have the time and staff to assess the dogs. Of course, in a perfect world they would. I'm really pleased to see that they neuter, this is something fairly new I think.

At Greyhound Gap in the UK we charge a £120 adoption fee. All our dogs are neutered, vaccinated and treated for parasites, the majority of them have lived in a foster home for at least 4 weeks and have been assessed in many situations, we find this helps us find the perfect home for the personality of the hound and new homes the perfect hound. We have always spent more on the hound than the amount of adoption fee we collect. We also provide telephone and personal backup for the rest of the hound's life should there be any problems of any sort. Hounds must come back to us if for any reason at any time of their lives the adopters can no longer care for them.

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