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have been researching the various types available ...normally they seem to have a method of setting to your abonnement

however , I have come across one that says it will sense whatever your meter is set to , and work to that

or do I misunderstand ?....could be an expensive mistake !!


11 Oct 2012, 11:23
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I can think of a couple of ways of doing it. Why don't you post a web link to the item ?


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The new electronic meters send coded signals via the telereportage line one of which is that your current consumption is nearing your abonnement limit and is used to switch the new generation of delesteurs, I think the meters may also send signals at several percentages of abonnement for selective delestage.


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Chancer wrote:
The new electronic meters send coded signals via the telereportage line one of which is that your current consumption is nearing your abonnement limit and is used to switch the new generation of delesteurs, I think the meters may also send signals at several percentages of abonnement for selective delestage.


thanks ...that ties up with what the manufacturer says ; logical , because you can watch your amperage changing on the meter if you want ; the delesteur is the type that senses the signal from the main phase tail

wonder what happened to the system of getting your internet through the electricity supply like this, the spanish seemed very keen on it


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well , just taken delivery of a nice new merlin gerin delesteur
downloaded the installation instructions from the internet [ had looked at them before I purchased ]

just one thing not clear ; the fils de teleinformation must be ..une paire torsadee blindee max 50 metres ....50 cm will be enough for me
while researching this I came across such information as this should be in 16/10 [ what's that ?], must be earthed [ I presume not for this model or it would say ] and diagrams showing this around both phase and neutral ...I thought just around the phase tail

where can I get a length of this , or is there a simple alternative ?


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une paire torsadee blindee = twisted pair so it does not pick up interference from 'phones etc.


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lebesset, blindee i.e. screened and 16/10 I'm guessing at AWG 16 ten strands...m

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AWG ...in france ??? am sure there is a law against it being american !!


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Try it with a simple wire, if that does not work move up to twisted pair etc.


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done a bit more research ...was actually to use a wire 6/10 .....which IS the gauge ....6 tenths of a mm2 !
some delesteur manufacturers say you must ground the shielding , some say not !!
and the system of using a twisted pair to cancel out electromagnetic interference was invented by a scotsman in the 19th century ...alexander graham bell !

would still like to get a length of this ! have got some telephone cable but I think that is 4/10 , have never noticed if it is twisted , must have a look


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lebesset, I wouldn't bother with screened twisted pair over 50cm, ok if the data cable is in the duct with the power and meters of it, but for such a short distance just keep it away from the other cables by a few mm and cross at right angles.
Shielding is a black art, usually ground at one end only

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martin4roberts wrote:
lebesset, I wouldn't bother with screened twisted pair over 50cm, ok if the data cable is in the duct with the power and meters of it, but for such a short distance just keep it away from the other cables by a few mm and cross at right angles.
Shielding is a black art, usually ground at one end only

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thanks for that , will give it a go if I don't stumble across the specified product , I presume you mean using unshielded wire
actually my error about the 16/10 was that the old type of delesteur needs this as they had the feeds running through them , and they had to have 16mm2 for 60 amps and 10mm2 for 45 amps , why they couldn't have added the ...mm2 ...for the non-cognescenti like me I don't know !!!


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