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chrisdickenson
Joined: 28 Jan 2011, 16:33
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Hi, was going to bring my Iveco Daily van to France, but found out it will cost about 500 euros just for the CoC. Think I'll sell it and buy a van that's cheaper and easier to import. Any suggestions?
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| 29 Jan 2011, 17:03 |
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woodyinfrance
Joined: 10 Nov 2006, 18:08
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hi chris try iveco uk for a coc , i got one for my car from bmw free of charge regards woods
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chrisdickenson
Joined: 28 Jan 2011, 16:33
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Tried that, they only issue ones valid for UK - no option you have to get one from Iveco France - hence the charge. Getting a CoC for my BMW bike free of charge, but Iveco want 500e, hence possibility of selling and getting a van that comes with a cheaper or free CoC!
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| 29 Jan 2011, 19:36 |
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annhaz1
Joined: 29 Apr 2008, 16:37
Posts: 532
Location: Le Dorat (87)
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When I got my COC from England and it was refused at Bellac. It was pointed out by Renault it is a EUROPEAN COC and a legal document in any country even if it is written in English. Limoges accepted it with no problems.
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| 29 Jan 2011, 19:50 |
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nutthewall
Joined: 10 Feb 2009, 16:04
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hi i just done ford transit coc=130euros direct from ford france all done by email received in 2 days ,headlights 110 euros for a pair from internet in germany . vw is free for first coc and you get it from vw uk hope this helps
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| 29 Jan 2011, 21:47 |
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Roadrat
Joined: 28 Oct 2005, 22:55
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A friend of mine who tried to get a COC for an IVECO from the head office in Spain. Was literally told that in all of Europe only the French ask for a CoC and that did they really think that IVECO made a special van for France? His opinion was that it was insulting for the French to ask for this and to tell them to F**k off from him.  Something of a hangover from the peninsular war I think.
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| 29 Jan 2011, 22:02 |
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acko
Joined: 16 Sep 2005, 20:27
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Roadrat wrote: A friend of mine who tried to get a COC for an IVECO from the head office in Spain. Was literally told that in all of Europe only the French ask for a CoC and that did they really think that IVECO made a special van for France? His opinion was that it was insulting for the French to ask for this and to tell them to F**k off from him. Sentiments a lot of us agree with but it doesn't change the fact that you've got to get the CoC 
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| 30 Jan 2011, 09:47 |
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acko
Joined: 16 Sep 2005, 20:27
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annhaz1 wrote: When I got my COC from England and it was refused at Bellac. It was pointed out by Renault it is a EUROPEAN COC and a legal document in any country even if it is written in English. Limoges accepted it with no problems. When I tried to register a trailer at Bellac the woman got a bit shirty that I didn't have the UK registration document but I told her to send it all off to Limoges anyway. Which after much huffing she did. New registration came back from Limoges with no problems.
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| 30 Jan 2011, 09:50 |
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jbc
Joined: 23 Oct 2007, 09:17
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Roadrat wrote: A friend of mine who tried to get a COC for an IVECO from the head office in Spain. Was literally told that in all of Europe only the French ask for a CoC and that did they really think that IVECO made a special van for France? His opinion was that it was insulting for the French to ask for this and to tell them to F**k off from him. :shock: Something of a hangover from the peninsular war I think. Not now but in the past,most manufacturers did make special vehicles for France,nothing major but usually minor differences in the drive train to enable a lower CV rating and therefore lower initial registration to be paid.Also not every option on every vehicle is offered in all countries.
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| 30 Jan 2011, 11:08 |
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hookie
Joined: 02 Jan 2007, 09:18
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I know people who've brought UK vehicles to France and have never bothered to register them here. They insure them, get a Control Technique certificate if needed and off they go! What is is the legal position on this versus the real day to day usage implications?
Also does a UK MoT certificate on a UK registered vehicle have any legal status here. The reason I ask is that I may well be bringing a vehicle over and there will be a short period between getting here and getting a Control Technique on it?
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Roadrat
Joined: 28 Oct 2005, 22:55
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 hookie wrote: I know people who've brought UK vehicles to France and have never bothered to register them here. They insure them, get a Control Technique certificate if needed and off they go! What is is the legal position on this versus the real day to day usage implications?
Also does a UK MoT certificate on a UK registered vehicle have any legal status here. The reason I ask is that I may well be bringing a vehicle over and there will be a short period between getting here and getting a Control Technique on it?
Thanks Oh dear, oh dear. You've just jumped into the bear pit I'm afraid. It's a matter of opinion whether this is a matter of opinion But for what it's worth, here's mine. France uses the system of certificate of conformity as a method of 'legal' but unfair protectionism and thus we have a moral obligation to give them two fingers. I have seen no evidence of anyone getting nicked for not reregistering either, only a few cases of people being asked to do so by the local Gendarmes. But even then the 'right' answers will baffle them into backing down. So the only real issue is insurance and on this point EC law is quite clear. Regardless of any local legislation, if an insurance company accepts your premium, you are insured.
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AnOther
Joined: 11 Jan 2008, 23:49
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It is incorrect to say that only the French demand a C of C, DVLA will require one for a car imported to UK for instance.
Despite what prefectures might say the actual language a C of C is written in is immaterial, what matters is the source and local concessionaires will not normally be able to issue a full C of C for a vehicle originally supplied in their country being registered in another as they cannot assert that it conforms to 3rd party regulations.
The same applies most countries as regional differences exist almost everywhere.
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Roadrat
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AnOther wrote: It is incorrect to say that only the French demand a C of C, DVLA will require one for a car imported to UK for instance.
Despite what prefectures might say the actual language a C of C is written in is immaterial, what matters is the source and local concessionaires will not normally be able to issue a full C of C for a vehicle originally supplied in their country being registered in another as they cannot assert that it conforms to 3rd party regulations.
The same applies most countries as regional differences exist almost everywhere. Perhaps, but the UK has a relatively simple system for one off registrations and the checking of small differences in spec. The French system was specifically designed to make imports as difficult as possible, originally this was designed to keep Japanese manufacturers out and is now used to stiffle cross border trade in used cars.
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mlonghurst
Joined: 15 Jul 2004, 20:28
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Location: Noyant D'Allier, Allier
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chrisdickenson wrote: Hi, was going to bring my Iveco Daily van to France, but found out it will cost about 500 euros just for the CoC. Think I'll sell it and buy a van that's cheaper and easier to import. Any suggestions? I have registered an Iveco Daily in France and can offer the following advice: 1. Iveco UK do not surrently provide CofC's for UK vehicles. 2. Iveco France (Fiat) provide a CofC for panel vans at a cost of 500 Euros 3. The CofC takes approx 3 months to come through Rgds, Mike L
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Chancer
Joined: 17 Mar 2010, 11:45
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3 months and €500 for a photocopied piece of paper, now what country would that be?
A single vehicle approval test (less than £100 IIRC) carried out very rapidly by one of many regional test centres the legth and breadth of the country. Fully equipped to verify the safety and conformity of all the relevant items without the owner having to provide a dossier of impossible individual certificates of conformity for pretty much every item on the vehicle, - what country would that be?
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