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norms wrote:
Greggles, i am quite frankly horrified that you would suggest the dog was shot or maimed. The dogs owner is 100% responsible for what happend to the poor chckens and must be made accountable. In the same way if a dog craps in the street, its the owner NOT the dog that should get the blame.


If the owner will not control their dog and the Mairie will not control the dog then I would protect my property and people who were on my property.

I agree it is the owners fault and not the dogs. That does not change the fact you can hardly train the dog for them.

What if you had children at your house and the dog attacked them? Would I be allowed to shoot it then? Or should I go have a word with the owner?

I would of course try everything in my power but if no-one was going to do anything then I have a choice, fence my entire property at great expense (which will not definitely keep the dog out) or deal with the dog. I just would choose to deal with the dog. It is an absolute last case scenario but I won't have my animals or children at my house be endangered just because someone is going to cry about animal cruelty.


10 Jul 2009, 13:46
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Our neighbours dog kept coming here and chasing/killing the chickens.

I liaised with her and she bought a quality electric collar, one that sounds a buzzer before zapping.

We have had 3 sessions walking around the chickens/geese and now it will not even look at them.

We will repeat this in a month, then 2 months then prob every 3-4 months.

The dog didnt mind the zap at first, so I clipped its neck and put vaseline on the connectors of the collar.
It is impt that the dog feels the pain when it approaches the chickens, and does not associate the pain with you.


10 Jul 2009, 14:43
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Yes - we are from the North West England and we always thought and had heard, that if a dog killed a chicken/hen you tied the dead bird onto the collar of the dog who after a few days hated the smell of the dead bird and never did it again. We did try this once in England and YES it worked. Recently we took on a very large black labrador who needed rehoming - first week he shot into the hen area - killed a chicken before I could get to him within 30 seconds. After letting him know we weren't that pleased with him, we tied the dead chicken round his neck thinking this would stop him from doing it again and locked him in a stable. On
checking him an hour later we found he'd eaten the entire chicken (yes feathers and all) and just left the two FEET. He obviously thought it had been hung around his neck for his supper. As this seems to be his main problem - apart from stealing any food from anywhere, w :lol: e don't allow him near the poultry area now - this just seems the most sensible way as we don't know what has happened in his five years before he came to us.


10 Jul 2009, 15:42
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Just to keep you all up to date. Our neighbours have replaced the chickens and yesterday they put up an electric fence in there garden the one where the dogs wear the collars, so hopefully that will sort them out.
Thankyou all for tour replys.


12 Jul 2009, 10:56
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I've read with interest all the posts but I'm still not clear if it is actually the law here in France that you must keep a dog on your premises and not leave it running around.

One of my cats was mawled by 2 terriers yesterday and frankly, it's a miracle he's still alive. The dogs are trained to kill wild cats and go hunting all the time. They are left to roam free and constantly enter our garden.

We have a good relationship with the neighbours apart from this and now feel that something really should be done. We are no considering putting the house on the market as we can no longer stand the stress of living alongside these dogs. It just doesn't seem fair.


02 Sep 2009, 07:57

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I think you should go to the marie. Dogs have to be kept in there garden and are not allowed to run free. The dogs which killed our chickens now have an electric fence around there garden and they wear collars so if they go near them they get a shock, Our marie was very good,but if they really get out of hand you need to go to the gendarme. Also they are only allowed to have 1 dog left in the garden at night.


02 Sep 2009, 09:22
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If your dogs kill a chicken you must tie the corpse onto the collar - with ours it took two hours and she never even looks at them now - equally make the dog sit and then feed the hens around the dogs feet - it also teaches the hens to be dominant over the dog.


03 Sep 2009, 07:15
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stesue wrote:
I think you should go to the marie. Dogs have to be kept in there garden and are not allowed to run free. The dogs which killed our chickens now have an electric fence around there garden and they wear collars so if they go near them they get a shock, Our marie was very good,but if they really get out of hand you need to go to the gendarme. Also they are only allowed to have 1 dog left in the garden at night.


The problem is that our neighbour was the Maire for over 20 years so I don't think we'll get much joy. Do you know for a fact that only 1 dog can be left in the garden at night? Is there any legislation I can see on the internet? That way I can print it off and show to the neighbour when we talk to him.


03 Sep 2009, 08:05

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Herbie, hello. You said that you even would sell and move away since you no longer can take the stress. This is horrible and I feel very very sorry for you since this is simply curel to be disturbed, annoyed, injured like that. I do believe that you should really stand up to that neighbour - no matter what he is or believes to be. There are many threads here giving a multitude of links for the legal aspects of the issues. I would also not discuss on a "legal" level with that neighbour but I would very clearly point out whats "working" with me and whats not. It is possible, and important, to talk to someone polite but anyway very strict and point out your situation. As far as I can see you simply want peace on your property and this is a minimal "demand". I think it is important to never surrender to a person abusing or insulting or hurting another.


04 Sep 2009, 08:43
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Hello,

My husband was on the local city concil and the law states that the Mayor is resposible for all errant (running loose) animals in his commune. Whether they are dogs , horses, cattle or sheep ect. Even if your neighbor has settled up, it might be a good idea to put it in writing explaining exactly what has hapened. The French put alot of stock in what is written. It then sets a precidence if you have anymore problems. The mayor, no matter who he is has to look in the situation. He is accountable for his village or city.

You don't have to be aggressive but state your case and express your wishes that the problem will be dealt with, good luck!

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04 Sep 2009, 10:06
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Thanks so much for your kind replies donata and obreynne. I wanted to familiarise myself with the law so that I feel strong when speaking with them. Not that I want to 'spout' the law at them but simply that I can be assertive in what I say and to know that I am within my rights to request the dogs be kept under control.

The neighbours do seem to care and came again yesterday to ask how the cat was. I'm sincerely hoping we can keep this amicable as we currently have a very good relationship with them.

They lived here for over 25 years without any neighbours and used all of the land around here even though they didn't own it. I think they've got used to this so hopefully it's just a question of setting down boundaries.


04 Sep 2009, 19:28
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