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crisp
Joined: 20 Jul 2005, 22:15
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Location: Buxières-les-Mines, 03 Allier
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Years ago in the UK, when I wanted fleece for hand spinning, I went to the nearest Wool Board collection centre and had my pick of anything they'd got, and at a reasonable price.
Can you do this in France? If so, what is the Wool Board called, and can I go and buy fleece there, or not?
Ideally I would prefer to buy from local farmers/smallholders but am finding it difficult to get the kind of fleece I need.
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Shepherd
Joined: 02 Jul 2007, 22:32
Posts: 392
Location: Sarlande. Dordogne (24)
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There is no wool board in France like in UK, its an open market where the farmer can sell to anyone he wants.
You need to find a dealer/merchant in your area, we have several in our area.
Regds
_________________http://www.lleynsheep.com/"Without a shepherd sheep are not a flock." "Marines dont die, they go to hell and regroup"
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Eco4you
Joined: 02 Dec 2006, 16:17
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hello fellow spinner, what type of wool are you looking for. we have a smallholding and breed different breeds  , at minuet i have mohair, alpaca , lama, and Suffolk, brown and ouessant wool. _________________Rosemary @ http://www.ecoferme.com
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crisp
Joined: 20 Jul 2005, 22:15
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Location: Buxières-les-Mines, 03 Allier
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Thank you Shepherd, but what are these dealers called? In other words, which bit of the yellow pages do I search in?
Hello Eco4you - would ideally like Jacob, but nobody in Allier seems to keep them. What do you charge per fleece (or per kilo) for the Suffolk? What I want is very soft stuff to spin up with big slubs, mostly white needed as I dye it too, but I'd also like a good black first year fleece as well.
Where are you?
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Eco4you
Joined: 02 Dec 2006, 16:17
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suffolk is soft with crimp and no kemp , I can sent you a sample if you want or there is a photo on my site. I sell it at 15euro the kg, I use it for spinning into hats , jumpers and shawls.  I do have one jacob fleece , I was planing on spinning my self , but I could spare you a bit if you are not after a lot. we are in the 33 gironde but can post to you _________________Rosemary @ http://www.ecoferme.com
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| 12 Aug 2008, 12:53 |
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crisp
Joined: 20 Jul 2005, 22:15
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Location: Buxières-les-Mines, 03 Allier
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Thanks Eco4you, but I'm after bigger quantities and hopefully much cheaper for quantity, which is why I was asking who takes all the wool clips and can I buy it there.
Shepherd - can you please tell me what these wool merchants are called? Marchandes de laines? Yellow pages under laine gives only knitting wool shops.
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Eco4you
Joined: 02 Dec 2006, 16:17
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How much are you thinking ........
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Shepherd
Joined: 02 Jul 2007, 22:32
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Location: Sarlande. Dordogne (24)
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Sorry crisp i really dont know what you would look for in yellow pages,
Could you not ask a local farmer or agri coop who the merchants are.
I sheared almost 500 sheep this year and am about to start on the lambs, boy oh boy do i wish i could get 15 euros/kilo
_________________http://www.lleynsheep.com/"Without a shepherd sheep are not a flock." "Marines dont die, they go to hell and regroup"
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crisp
Joined: 20 Jul 2005, 22:15
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Location: Buxières-les-Mines, 03 Allier
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Exactly, Shepherd!
Thanks for all help - I'll chat up my nearest farmer.
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| 13 Aug 2008, 22:23 |
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Shepherd
Joined: 02 Jul 2007, 22:32
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Location: Sarlande. Dordogne (24)
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crisp wrote: Shepherd - can you please tell me what these wool merchants are called? Marchandes de laines? Had a look and you had the answer all along Good luck Ivan _________________http://www.lleynsheep.com/"Without a shepherd sheep are not a flock." "Marines dont die, they go to hell and regroup"
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cbpinet
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Joined: 25 Mar 2008, 14:25
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Location: Dordogne
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Shepherd wrote: Sorry crisp i really dont know what you would look for in yellow pages,
Could you not ask a local farmer or agri coop who the merchants are.
I sheared almost 500 sheep this year and am about to start on the lambs, boy oh boy do i wish i could get 15 euros/kilo Hi, Crisp may be able to get the info from a farmer but will probably be wasting their time at the agri coop! At a push someone from the ovine section of their departmental offices of the chamber of Ag may be able to help. I live in 24 and the nearest wool buyer to me lives in 82. If Crisp lived nearer they could come and collect as much as they wanted from me for nothing, that's about what we get from the buyers!! To Shepherd, I am intrigued as to why you shear your lambs? I only shear animals over a year old after their first winter. Am I missing something here? kind regards cbp
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Shepherd
Joined: 02 Jul 2007, 22:32
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Location: Sarlande. Dordogne (24)
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cbpinet wrote: To Shepherd, I am intrigued as to why you shear your lambs? I only shear animals over a year old after their first winter. Am I missing something here? kind regards cbp Yep, Looks like you are missing something, _________________http://www.lleynsheep.com/"Without a shepherd sheep are not a flock." "Marines dont die, they go to hell and regroup"
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Eco4you
Joined: 02 Dec 2006, 16:17
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probably to reduce the risk of blowfly cbpinet , Its been a bad year with the warm and wet weather. And yes shepherd, everyone has the right to make a living, its down to quality and quantity. The shearer is not the tiniest bothered if the sheep got rolled over in the straw and **** first, or the fact they don't do a clean cut , leaving lots of little bits which is hell to spin and the added delight of dipping the shear blade in old diesel so your jumper smell like you've just got it of the garage floor  , and the smell never go's away, all their interested in is bragging about how many sheep they did in the hour.  I wish you luck crisp in finding some wool worth spinning.... _________________Rosemary @ http://www.ecoferme.com
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cbpinet
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Joined: 25 Mar 2008, 14:25
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 Hi,Eco4you, thankyou for the suggestion, I manage against flystrike with a combo of Butox and Cliq and so far so good. I also systematically dock the tails just long enough to cover their 'bits'. Mr Shepherd and I have different finishing methods for fat lambs due to different lambing times as he has kindly explained in a pm. Your appreciation of shearers was I thought a tad harsh!! Not all of us use diesel to clean the blades and some of use a carpet to shear on. Some straw/bedding will get caught up in the fleece and of course the sheep can't always be persuaded to use the facilities before stepping into the salon!! From the shearer/farmers point of view, due to the terribly low price for wool there is little or no incentive to take the care we used to do thirty years ago. My grandparents always used to dip before shearing and pride was taken in sorting and binding fleeces correctly. Living on a Welsh hill farm believe me nothing was wasted or spoiled if it meant a few more pennies on the wool cheque. kind regards cbp
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Eco4you
Joined: 02 Dec 2006, 16:17
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totally agree with you, lets hope the, felted wool, roof insulation project gets hold. just need to stop the moths from eating it  _________________Rosemary @ http://www.ecoferme.com
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